Originally published on AdMonsters

There’s been an inordinate amount of journalistic reporting detailing the instability of the advertising market brought about by the impact of COVID-19.

Anyone reading the state of affairs would wholeheartedly believe that the Coronavirus completely obliterated ad spend. If you’re one of those folks, I’mma let you finish but, we’re starting to see some data analysis come in from the past few months and I gotta tell ya there are definitely some bright spots.

First, in response to consumer’s stay-at-home behaviors, we saw a hike in gaming TV spend, along with esports. More recently, we learned that as consumers continued to shop for clothing, that category has topped paid ad impressions. Coincidentally, digital ad spend is set to eclipse traditional for the very first time and we have programmatic to thank for that advancement.

We even discovered that brands were heavily investing in mission-based marketing, because it builds trust.

The latest deviation from the advertiser pause on ad spend that we’re hearing about is in the financial services category. For the last couple of years, the category has lead in digital ad spend and during the pandemic, even when loads of people are out of work, it seems to be no different.

As you can guess, I was a little skeptical. To gain a better understanding, I spoke with  Rachel Tuffney, EVP, US Operations for Dianomi, an advertising platform for financial services, to learn about the current trends within financial ad spending and how premium publishers could take advantage of this shift, as well as the future of advertising.

Lynne d Johnson: It seems that while ad spend is down across the board, digital is doing a lot better than traditional. But it only appears that a few categories are actually spending. There’s gaming because, well, that’s what quite a few people are doing with all of their time now.

And then there’s clothing because people are still buying—probably for their Zoom meetings and they’re catching fitness fever. But when I heard that financial brands were spending I was a little baffled. With tens of millions of people laid off, are they really digging deeper into financial products? What’s going on here?

Rachel Tuffney: It is interesting to think that financial brands would be increasing spend during these unprecedented times, but we are seeing spend on our platform increase. In Dianomi’s marketplace, which encompasses 600 blue-chip financial brands, such as BlackRock, Vanguard, and Charles Schwab, we’ve seen ad spend increase during the height of the pandemic in the U.S.

In conversations with our clients, we’re hearing that there is an increase in personal investors engaging with the stock market, as they either have more time on their hands or perhaps need to create an income during a period of less work or furloughs. Our clients are focusing on engaging their professional and personal client bases to ensure they are present and proactive in providing help with important choices in uncertain climates. For financial brands, this is an opportunity to lean in, educate and be a resource on complex and often high stakes financial topics.

The reason we’re seeing the spend increase on our platform in particular is because we’re able to align their ads natively with premium content environments right next to the very content the consumers are seeking out. So that means the ads get placed right into the correct environment and that leads to great engagement. For example, a fund manager reading an article about a new ETF investment vehicle will be likely to be receptive to a financial brand’s white paper on that subject.

LdJ: So this sounds more like a B2B play than a B2C play. What kind of numbers are we talking about? Are you seeing growth from last year or are your numbers relatively the same?

RT: When comparing April 2019 to April 2020, we saw ad spend increase by more than 70% in our marketplace. We’ve also seen our advertiser network grow by nearly 20% this year, signifying that financial and professional service brands are looking to invest more in advertising, especially native and contextually relevant advertising. I also think that our platform is breaking through the clutter due to the unique and premium nature of the publisher partnerships.

LdJ: How can premium publishers take advantage of this trend?

RT: It’s a tough climate for media brands and publishers, even the premium publishers are struggling with their cost-base. So revenue is important and connecting your supply with quality platforms like Dianomi has been a great way to develop new revenue streams with premium brands.

In the past, a lot of publishers partnered with native platforms who drove revenue but delivered questionable ad quality. This is not a fair pay off and so we’ve seen a lot of the big publishers lean into our philosophy of quality and aligned content and brands. The winning formula is to prioritize premium brands and ads that not only enhance the financials (for the business) but also the experience for their readers.

In simple terms, if you’re looking to better understand ETFs, you’re not looking for cat food.

LdJ: Contextual targeting is gaining an attention revival as government and big tech have become staunch consumer privacy advocates. For instance, the enforcement date for CCPA just passed and Chrome is sunsetting the third-party tracking cookie soon. Let’s not forget that usage of the third party-tracking cookie led to a lot of fraud, which brings me to another issue.

In the era of COVID-19 and with growing concerns about racial injustice, we’re seeing blocklist approaches to brand safety hurting both publishers and advertisers. Legit pubs are missing out on revenue opportunities and brands aren’t reaching all of the audience segments they need to reach. How does contextual targeting benefit both advertisers and publishers when it comes to privacy and brand safety?

RT: First of all, let me say that this is a great question. Raising awareness of what blocklists (and term blocks) can do to important causes and journalism is important. At a macro level, there is a lot of focus on supply market places specifically designed to help brands support journalism and BLM type content which is fantastic.

Furthermore, contextual targeting, especially considering CCPA concerns and uncertainty around the future of targeting, is an exceptionally effective way for technology companies and publishers to work hand-in-hand to help brands engage the right audiences in the right place and at the right time without drifting into privacy issues.

Context is the most effective proxy and getting it right always leads to the best ROI. It ensures advertisers are reaching precisely who they want to reach–whether its financial planners, to lawyers to healthcare administrators–creating adjacency with the content that those bankers or lawyers or those healthcare execs are actively leaning into–such as the latest medical device for treating the coronavirus or the latest ETF options for financial planners. That’s what an optimal native, contextual content strategy really delivers.

LdJ:  There’s been a rise in native content marketing in recent years. Why does native make sense for financial brands and publishers alike?

RT: I think the answer is simple, native and contextual technology helps publishers and consumers because it leverages the inherent benefit of quality publishing which is to give consumers the very best content and experience possible—linked exactly to what the reader or viewer is interested in.

The simple fact is that if we as an industry can more accurately match advertising to the content that consumers (both professional and individual) are looking for—then we raise vs diminish the experience. That benefits everyone and in my opinion, that’s the future of advertising.

Investors remain hungry for content.

More than three months into the Covid-19 pandemic in Western countries, investors are still searching for insight and expertise that might help them navigate a path through the volatility that the crisis has prompted. Data from Dianomi reveals surging interest in financial content online continued during June, as investors looked for support and advice.

Looking across four major asset classes – equities, fixed income, real estate and commodities – Dianomi registered a 24% increase in investors’ consumption of online financial content in June compared to May. Consumption is up by an average of 11% on January, before the Covid-19 crisis broke. Equity-related content accounts for around three-quarters of consumption on the sites tracked by Dianomi, with demand for coverage remaining high despite the relative calm that has descended on world stock markets in recent weeks. US stocks were almost completely flat during June, but investors are still consuming 12% more content on average than in January.

Moreover, while investors’ appetite for equity-related content has fallen back compared to the height of the crisis, their levels of engagement have continued to rise all year. Dianomi’s Engagement Index, which tracks reader engagement over time, has risen from 4.5 at the beginning of the year in equities to 5.5 last month. The data suggests that investors remain anxious about their stock market investments despite the more recent easing of market turbulence. While world stock markets have recovered some of the losses they sustained at the beginning of the pandemic, most remain well below their levels in the first quarter of the year. Dianomi’s analysis suggests the story is similar in other asset classes.

In fixed-income and bonds, for example, investors have continued to search out content in greater numbers, reflecting both the increased volatility of global bond markets and the difficulties of securing yield in the ongoing low interest rate environment. The US Federal Reserve kept interest rates at zero last month, but there has been increasing pressure in recent weeks for a move towards negative rates. This is one reason why investors are consuming 11% more fixed-income content each month than in January. Engagement with fixed-income content has also been maintained.

Interest in commodities has also been significant, with June’s Engagement Index score of 6.1 higher in this asset class than any others. Consumption is 9% up on average compared to January. In part, the interest in commodities in recent weeks will reflect the sustained increase in prices of many raw materials since the low points recorded in March and April. Investors also continue to seek out content on gold, the ultimate safe-haven asset.

Meanwhile, content on real estate is also in demand. While consumption of real estate content has grown less rapidly during the crisis – potentially reflecting reduced transaction volumes during the lockdown – the asset class is still recording an average of 4% more consumption each month compared to January. Amid the volatility on traded exchanges, investors continue to look to alternative asset classes for diversification and return opportunities.

At an aggregate level, Dianomi’s data suggests that the spike in demand for news, commentary and advice on financial markets registered at the beginning of the pandemic has been maintained. Indeed, in challenging markets – Dianomi analysis suggests 52% of all content last month had a negative tone – investors continue to need help. And with so much uncertainty continuing – and the Covid-19 virus far from under control in many markets – their appetite for insight remains elevated.

Originally published in AW360

With protest movements, a pandemic, and privacy regulations like CCPA kicking into effect – there’s never been a more urgent time to invest in (and defend) brand marketing. But marketers can move forward with meaningful, authentic measures and messages, delivered in the right way, and reap dividends immediately and potentially for many years to come.

Consumers are hyper-aware of how brands are positioning themselves (as well as noting their silence) amidst the current climate. Even business-forward brands are being held accountable by customers. Privacy regulations are forcing a course correction on many programmatic strategies, but tough economic circumstances mean every penny of marketing spend is being challenged, reduced, or eliminated – especially if it’s hard to attribute to a specific KPI. So how can marketers justify and defend the budget for brand-building?

Solution: find the right balance of brand and performance. Take those brand-building assets:  white papers, infographics, or e-books, and amplify them with native, contextual performance-based strategies. You’ll ensure your message and content appear in precisely the right context, in a quality environment and distributed at scale. Native campaigns can be a way to precisely deploy high-quality brand assets, distributed in the right environments.

As digital advertising moves beyond cookies and third-party data, native campaigns are the way to combine quality control, audience targeting and context that aren’t possible by relying solely on programmatic. The combination of brand and performance can be an exponentially powerful brand builder – especially as a means to market effectively in the COVID-19 era.

“As digital advertising moves beyond cookies and third-party data, native campaigns are the way to combine quality control, audience targeting and context that aren’t possible by relying solely on programmatic.”

The right context is key

The pandemic’s onset threw the world into an anything-but-business as a usual quagmire. The knee-jerk reaction for brands and advertisers was to quickly pull ads to avoid placements next to coronavirus-related content, leaving media publications hurting from ad revenue loss just as media consumption was at a high point. This was a huge missed opportunity for brands.

Rather than pulling ads altogether, smart brands pivoted to campaigns that would allow them to align creative to hit the right contextual note: some financial brands, for example, offered timely advice on shifting investment strategies to account for volatility.

Others, like location data company Unacast, provided pro-bono data to reinforce the importance of social distancing as a critical measure in fighting COVID-19. Brand loyalty is on the line across the industry – as we’re now seeing with the Stop Hate For Profit campaign against Facebook. Identifying the right content is the key first step, followed by the context in which it is delivered.

“The knee-jerk reaction for brands and advertisers was to quickly pull ads to avoid placements next to coronavirus-related content, leaving media publications hurting from ad revenue loss just as media consumption was at a high point.”

Performance and brand: not one versus the other

Regardless of the current climate’s dynamics, marketers are still under pressure to deliver immediate ROI. But without the right messaging, context, or format, performance-based tactics won’t provide any measurable value. Now is the time to reassess KPIs, marketing tactics and toolkit and consider adding different delivery methods and yardsticks, adding cost-per-click options to CPM based campaigns. Programmatic remains a foundational strategy to effectively target consumers. But with consumers paying closer attention to the posture, position and behavior behind a brand message, marketers need to prioritize methods that grant them more control. Native or sponsored content can be a smart supplement or option to automated tactics to ensure brand messages are hitting home in a safe, premium environment.

As early signs begin to point to recovery from the coronavirus pandemic, it’s carpe diem time for brands and advertisers to lean in — now — for success moving forward. Having a strong brand message and presence is not only critical to maintaining customer loyalty during this time but will also influence customer acquisition and retention. Leveraging the right performance-based tactics to catapult topical, engaging and authentic native content, in a premium context and in front of the right audience at precisely their moment of interest is a powerful way to augment campaign plans and deliver meaningful results.

Q&A with What’s New In Publishing: Dianomi, the native ad marketplace for professional services brands and B2B publishers

By WNIP2 days ago

Last modified on July 16th, 2020

Based in London, New York and Sydney, Dianomi is the native ad platform for the financial services, tech and corporate sectors, providing advertisers with access to a global audience of 200 million consumers. Despite volatility in ad spend during the pandemic, one exception has been a steady growth in financial brands spending on native advertising in premium outlets. WNIP caught up with Rupert Hodson, Co-Founder & CEO, Dianomi, to find out more…

What business problem is your company addressing?

Dianomi works with trusted publishers to monetize content through premium sponsored posts. While native advertising has received its share of criticism, with some people referring to it as ‘clickbait’, we approach sponsored content differently. Our focus from day one has been helping premium brands deliver native advertisements that people want to see in publications people want to read, honing in on the right audience and context.

We bridge the gap between advertiser and publisher, integrating advertising content with premium publication context, which ensures that no ads are served that aren’t relevant to a publication or reader.

Through our tech, every element of the communications mix is holistically optimised – audiences, advertising content, advertisement position, publication type, publication quality, delivery timing and delivery device work together.

What is your core product addressing this problem?

We’ve always prioritized premium campaign experiences and the best way to deliver that we believe is through native advertising with trusted partners on professionally curated content. Our cost-per-click model operates with complete transparency, scalability and all within a brand-safe environment.

Our marketplace connects 600 blue-chip financial brands — Prudential, Morgan Stanley, Chase and others — to a global audience of financially engaged consumers via 300+ of the world’s best-known business and finance publishers. Media properties for whom we drive revenue include The Wall Street Journal, Reuters, Kiplinger and MSN. 

In terms of contextual targeting, we’ve identified 12 contextual audiences relevant for our advertising partners that allow for page-level targeting on our publishers’ sites. This level of granularity ensures advertisers are reaching the right audience without the reliance on third-party data, and at scale.

Can you give some examples of publishers successfully using your solution?

Aside from the publishers mentioned earlier, our roster includes Business Insider, VOX, Recode, Bloomberg, Fortune, and other premium business and financial publications.

Pricing?

Dianomi works on a cost per click (CPC) model, or cost per view for video advertisements.

What are other people doing in the space and why?

Because our marketplace is niche, with premium advertisers and publishers, we guarantee brand safety as well as ensure the content is shared with readers in a contextually relevant environment.

While there are others in the native advertising and contextual spaces, none have the reach or access to premium business and financial content in our vertical.

How do you view the future?

Over the years, through programmatic advertising, the ad ecosystem has moved from a targeting landscape that relied and worked on contextual relevance to one where advertisers were chasing audiences over the web through the use of third-party cookies. This led to major brand safety issues and fraud.

With CCPA now fully enforced and prominent, plus Google’s move to remove third-party cookies and playing catch up with Apple’s focus on data privacy, we are seeing a return to the simplicity and relevance of ad targeting based on context and focused on premium professionally curated content. Marketing does not have to be uber complicated to succeed. Quite the opposite.

Thank you.

Half of Investors Say Their Portfolios Took A 10-20% Hit and Believe It Will Take 12 Months to 2.5 Years to Regain Losses

New York, NY – June 16, 2020 – New research from Dianomi, the premium native advertising platform for the world’s best-known financial publishers and brands, reveals that a majority of approximately 8,300 investors surveyed expect to see a sustained stock market recovery — a U-shaped recovery rather than a more dramatic V-shaped resurgence –and anticipate a gradual return to growth in the wake of COVID-19. In addition, almost two-thirds of investors (64%) believe the bounce backs have come too quickly and 69% think there is more hardship on the horizon.

In addition, in a companion poll, Dianomi found that 51% of investors have lost between 10%-20% of their portfolios over the COVID-19 crisis and about half — 48% —  believe it will take 12 months to 2.5 years to regain portfolio losses.

“The only thing certain in this marketplace is that both private and institutional investors are uncertain about the future,” said Rupert Hodson, CEO and Co-Founder of Dianomi. “They’re demonstrating an appetite for financial news and seeking out information from established brands for reassurance and strategies for future proof investments.”

In the Dianomi survey, private and professional investors in the US and UK weighed in on their current sentiments and future outlook and strategies for navigating the financial markets in the COVID-19 climate. Key findings include:

  • US investors are significantly gloomier than their peers in the UK, and that private investors are noticeably more downbeat than the institutional investors.
  • Almost half (43%) of US private investors are risk-averse versus 23% who are seeking more aggressive investment opportunities. The reverse is true with professional investors, with 27% of professional investors citing aversion to risk and 39% seeking risk.
  • Amongst private investors in the US, only 22% regard equities as offering good value, while 37% of professional investors are now on the look-out for valuation opportunities.
  • Only 22% and 25% of UK and US investors respectively say they are more likely to seek out professional financial advice amid the current market volatility.

Methodology

A total of 8,279 private and professional investors in the US and UK participated in Dianomi’s online survey conducted through its proprietary research arm, MarketViews concluding in May 2020. Its companion poll, also conducted via MarketViews, queried 850 private and professional investors May 28 to June 4, 2020 online.

About Dianomi

Dianomi is the native ad platform for the financial services, technology and corporate sectors, providing advertisers with access to a global audience of 200 million online consumers. Through our native display and video units, brands can target consumers contextually with content and product marketing messages on over 350 premium business and finance publishers. Advertisers and publishers trust Dianomi for our brand safety, transparent pricing and insights. Our emphasis on high-quality audiences combined with contextually relevant content helps partners achieve higher ROI than other native ad platforms. For more information, go to http://www.dianomi.com.

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Until recently, my entire professional career has been spent within some of the world’s leading publishers and the three most important values I learned are trust, quality and experience. 

I don’t think it would be an exaggeration to say that now, more than any time in a generation, those values define the future of the media.

Yet, until recently, those trusted publishers and their journalists are struggling with the decline of print advertising and the migration of spend towards social platforms who benefit from only having to pay a small fee to the content creators (#cutecatpics). 

I am optimistic that society and brands have already started to recognize quality journalism (content creators and storytelling) not least because 80% of all time spent online is consuming content outside of the big social platforms. Let’s hope that this logical shift back to quality will only accelerate now that the world’s population is rediscovering the importance of quality information.

How do we ensure that quality news and journalism achieve a sustainable position within the media ecosystem? One way that we can assure this future as readers is to ensure that we become more thoughtful about what we consume and where (almost like how we consciously shop for food with better providence). As media and marketing professionals, we should also start to recognize and prioritize the importance of quality environments and content as a proxy for quality advertising outcomes.

It may be a little self-serving for me to point to native and sponsored content as part of the answer and opportunity but there is absolutely no doubt that it remains an unexploited channel. 

So why is this channel still underdeveloped?

Native achieves exceptional results and cost per outcome returns but the hard truth, until now, is that the quality of content and advertising has been extremely poor.  

It pains me to see such low quality content being served in such premium environments. Yesterday, I was reading an article on one of the best known sites and I was served a link to the five best solutions for senior incontinence. Whilst I may have recently hit 40, I don’t think this was ever going to improve my experience!

Not all content is created equal. The set of recommendations I was served on the main page of “Sectors”..!

In-feed sponsored content is booming on platforms like Facebook where they get it right by integrating personalized content that works for the user. That platform won’t scale for professional or B2B content but there’s no reason why we can’t produce an equally efficient approach to the “open” internet using quality publishers, aligned sponsored content and excellent technology.

Research proves that native advertising and sponsored content work to drive better engagement and ROI than standard display. However, unlike programmatic, where the industry has moved to improve quality and leverage the channel as an opportunity to personalize vs. simply serve poor quality ads into remnant inventory, native and sponsored content remains underrepresented in the ecosystem.

Quality is the starting point. Dianomi has been working hard in the background with the leading publishers (Reuters, MarketWatch…) to build a high quality supply of native opportunity. We’ve been working with a number of financial and technology brands to test delivery of high quality sponsored content into these premium environments to measure the results for both the publishers and the brands.

The results have been extremely encouraging. It’s not surprising that the publishers / editors are leaning in, monetizing without damaging the integrity of the “trust, quality and experience” mantra we discussed at the outset. Brands are also excited for the same reasons. It turns out that quality context unlocks performance and our native platform unlocks the scale.

I am excited to continue this work with the whole advertising eco-system. I’m determined to not allow Dianomi to dilute its purpose by taking on the wrong type of content/ brands. We are committed to financial, business and technology brands and publishers.

If you are a publisher, an agency focused on helping brands leverage their content investment in a safe and positive way or a brand – I’d be delighted for you to reach out. 

Now is the time to do business in the right way which means, creating trust, quality and a fantastic experience for the consumer.


 An Interview with Dianomi EVP Dianomi USA, Rachel Tuffney 

Gramercy Institute Chief Analyst, Bill Wreaks, recently met up with Rachel Tuffney, EVP Dianomi, USA. Tuffney leads North American growth and operations for this fast-growing London-based financial marketing firm.

Wreaks engaged with Tuffney to better understand the challenges and opportunities in the financial marketing world that we are all navigating today, Dianomi’s key value to financial marketers as well as the growth, success and North American potential of this important company.


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“I think it is important that we start off by making sure that we think in human terms.”

Key Points Covered:

  • Crisis Advice in Financial Marketing
  • The Relevancy of Relevancy
  • Measurement of Success
  • Power of Content in Marketing
  • Our Industry’s Long-term Outlook

Account-based marketing can be a powerful tool in b2b marketing, allowing financial services firms to identify closely with their buying committees, according to Jennifer Grazel, managing director for US marketing and brand officer at RBC Capital Markets. With account-based marketing, “you’re no longer fishing with nets, but fishing with spears,” she said. 

For an M&A advisory firm, for example, account-based marketing means focusing on a buying committee that is vast and can include a chief executive, a board of directors, shareholders and the law firms that are advising a corporation.

A lot of companies in the B2B space begin an ecommerce initiative focusing on their existing customers. It’s very common for B2B companies to start there, and I believe that is probably responsible for a portion of the companies that fall within that 51.4%—it’s just the stage they-‘re at within their digital transformation journey.

Grazel explained that b2b marketing in financial services has changed dramatically in the past few years, from a focus on print execution solely, with ads in financial newspapers and sponsorships of events for example, to a much broader endeavor. 

“It’s really evolved since then and b2b marketers have to think more of a holistic, omni-channel approach and really an ecosystem approach in thinking about who their heartland audience is and at what stage they are in their information discovery journey,” she said. 

In the future, Grazel anticipates that formats will continue to evolve, with different channels connecting even further. “Ultimately, it’s about storytelling, but really thinking through your people and where they’re at in the decision journey. You have to re-think the varying channels and how you serve up the right information.”

Data has become critical in financial services marketing, especially as it relates to content marketing, according to Ed Nini, head of ETF Marketing at Principal Global Investors.

With the rise of content marketing, data has allowed firms to better understand and better assess which message connects with a particular audience and the next steps to undertake. It has allowed them to produce more personalized content that translates into actual sales.

“Data has changed the game,” said Nini. “Data has allowed us to target better. It has allowed us to understand the effectiveness of our content and overall marketing activities.”

He added that it also leads to better leads and sales engagement and that it helps connect the dots between marketing and sales.

“Having data helps us understand what is truly relevant and is truly engaging to a particular target audience,” he said. “Without that data, you’re throwing darts at the wall to determine what content sticks with that person,” which makes it more challenging to understand the cause and effect of a sale.

On a more granular level, data has shown that videos, especially short videos, as well as podcasts, have had a tremendous impact and effectiveness on target audiences. “Videos and podcasts are gaining more prominence in marketing strategies and being used as tactics that move the needle for marketing plans,” he explained. 

Nini predicts that going forward, the traditional intersection between marketing and sales in the B2B space will slowly disappear.

“Organizations will figure out a way for us to engage with a particular audience without human intervention,” he said. “It’s going to be a digital engagement, even digital capabilities, that we don’t realize today. Much different ways of delivering information.”

The power of marketing in financial services is about being able to assist sales and to have the two divisions work in tandem, according to David Master, chief marketing officer at global asset manager Janus Henderson Investors

“Increasingly, our sales organization is comfortable with ours serving up leads,” he said. “That may sound mundane, because isn’t that what marketing does everywhere? But in asset management, that has not always been the case. A lot of times, it’s been ‘keep your nose out of our business’.”

He explained that Janus has been able to create what he calls “interesting moments” that can be delivered to a firm’s sales team, a term he favors over leads. “I think leads sometimes take on a connotation that may be too extreme,” he said, adding that “interesting moments” can be created through advertising, webcasts or emails.

When sales and marketing are aligned closely and jointly executed through a specific campaign, it’s easier to look at the tangible results of that campaign. But firms should refrain from trying to figure out how much of the success should be attributed to marketing and how much should be attributed to sales, because it creates a chasm between sales and marketing.

Proper measurement in financial marketing can be extremely difficult, in part because marketing represents a cost. But combined with sales, which represents more an element of revenue, then the measurement makes a lot more sense, Master added. Looking at marketing activity just by itself is limited.

“As we begin to use more and more marketing automation, we’re careful about how we create stories and criteria that also characterize something as an interesting moment, and then we do hand those over,” Master said. “In that sense we are able to calculate a reasonable measure of what the cost of an interesting moment might have been. And we’re getting more and more data about how many of those interesting moments translate into something real and tangible.”